a violation of the law. and so the judge ordered betsey devos and her education department to stop collecting money from these students and to stop using that illegal formula, and betsey devos and her education department ignored the judge's order. they didn't exactly ignore it, but they didn't stop collecting money from the students. thousands of students were told they still needed to make payments on those loans from the scam colleges, and their credit scores got dinged, and their paychecks got garnished and their tax refunds got seized. this department of education policy, the department's determination to keep going with the policy despite the court order striking it down, i mean it materially hurt these real americans who had already been injured, right? this damage was painful, it was personal. and they did it thousands of times. thousands of people hurt after the court told the education