better than any of the other candidates. but it turns out the antipathy for governor matt bevin which is so strong that not even donald trump himself could come in -- in fact it was one of the worst counties for bevin in the election. he was blown out -- where democrats are heavily in those cities. >> you're saying the president visiting those cities on matt bevin's behalf might have actually energized the other side? >> yes, i would say so. it motivated democrats and i should note that governor bevin is an atypical kind of candidate. he's very brash. in 2015 he won and before trump