him? why shouldn't he be held accountable? why shouldn't he provide transparency to individuals who would like to see his taxes? >> let me ask you -- this is a naive question. you can tell me i'm dumb for asking it. >> i would never do that. >> i might deserve it. don't rule it out. on that last point that you were making about this new york state law that says under certain circumstances a person's state -- the president's state tax returns could be handed over to the appropriate members of congress, if that gets to the end of the line in terms of the president trying to sue you and trying to block that in court and trying to fight that out through litigation and the president decides, i'm going to flout that law, what is new york going to do, arrest me? where does that end if the president decides that's a state law and he doesn't feel bound by it? >> the reality is, we are fighting this case because it was filed in the district of columbia. we believe new york is not subject to the jurisdiction of the district of columbia. he is arguing that the trust