reach a diplomatic outcome that would curb iran's nuclear ambition and make sure it's not going to seek a bomb and then we can try to negotiate to solve the other problems. it won't be easy. it will take time. diplomacy is the answer. it's certainly not war as you laid out at the outset. >> and just -- well, that's good to hear. and just finally and briefly, i want to ask about the pegasus spyware report out this week including the emiratis and saudis were spying on their opponents. we'll cover this later in the show but i want to know your personal reaction that you were on the list of potentially hacked phone numbers and will the u.s. state department be taking any action on this? >> so i'm not going to speculate about what might happen. i'll say this, that it's an operational matter. the operational questions and i'm not going to comment and i'll leave it to others to take this in the direction that the administration decides. >> all right. well, i had to ask the question. rob malley, thanks so much for being with us tonight. appreciate it. >> there's a new ben & jerry's