Witnesses. hope hickson david pecker, the person who headed the national enquirer, were devastating witnesses. their subsequent testimony is so damning for donald trump and their cross-examination was kid gloves. >> nobody's testimony is in some restricts -- respects more devastating than hope hicks because of her proximity. no one questioned her credibility but if you take a step back and forget about the accident of their respective births, hope hicks coming from very wealthy greenwich connecticut, being raised as the ralph lauren model, the epitome of poise and grace in the trump white house contrasted with stormy daniels, who had, by contrast, a very rough childhood, a mother who abandoned her -- all of this comes out on her direct examination but the difference in how they were trusted, i think, is really palpable in sort of a toxic brew of class