Seen him in person. he was less ethan expected. >> the first time i was in the courtroom, donald trump was very surprised to see me because it had been mostly reporters, you know, very few anchor types showing up there. and donald trump has hated me longer than anyone who was going to walk into that courtroom. he was once very fond of stormy daniels, and you know, very fond of michael cohen. but in 2011 when donald trump started talking about president obama's birth certificate, i said he was lying about it, and i called him a liar. and donald trump had never been called a liar before in his life, even though he'd lived a life of lying. when he was leaving that day, he just did the stupidest thing he could possibly do. he looked right at me in this grand way that everyone in the courtroom could see, and he was trying to do a face that would