any criminal defendant. he's being treated actually better. in fact, most defendants lose custody and have their bill revoked, if they act the way that donald trump has acted. what we see, i believe, we've been so frustrated and impatient that justice whatever comfortable trump, that in the last year of this tapestry of accountability, that's been stitched together for the criminal case to the civil case, i think creates this kind of security blanket for our rule of law and for our democracy. if we can keep the faith in our rule of law and do what we have done since doctors november 2016, which is mobilize, organize and show their voting, not violence, what they would use, that we can restore justice in this country. that's all we do. it >> as somebody who participated in one of the two impeachment trials of donald trump, i am sure it takes a moment for you sometimes to have to think about how things could have been different, right? how things could have been so different for the united states,