your life. >> you know what, congressman, at the beginning of your segment, we were talking about how you've got the judicial system, right? and you got judges that are going to get keep, and you've got juries that will sit there and make determinations, because that's how our judicial system works. but then donald trump decides that it's not going to work for him in court, so he wants to go out, wants to play the media, or he wants to dispatches house republicans to be able to do his dirty deeds for him. we've seen him loose in court. he got tagged with $400,000 or so of attorneys fees. we see him get tagged with damages. e. jean carroll's got her second definition trial coming up next week. but why can't those things move in parallel, right? why can't justice happen in a courtroom, justice happen in congress and justice happen in the court of public opinion? >> i'd say justice is happening in the courtroom. by the way, kate, you practiced law in a courtroom. you know that donald trump is not being treated worse than