something real to happen? >> i think any ukrainian that you speak to here are deeply skeptical that these talks will yield any results anytime soon. the reason for that is that they will tell you that vladimir putin has showed no signs of wanting to end this war anytime soon. you talk to all ukrainians here, they say, look, these talks have been going on, there have been several rounds of talks, some high levels between the foreign ministers, but they have not given any tangible results to alleviate the pain that this country and its civilians are going through, especially all the children that we mentioned earlier. no, there is not much hope that these talks will gain much traction at this time. >> idea rudy, thank you for reporting. please stay safe. thank you. joining us now is jack barsky, a former kgb agent at the fact that the united states in 1988. he's the executive producer and