it doesn't apply. but that's what people want. they want to no fly zone. they want to see harder sanctions. they want to see more from the west. they want bank transfers not to go through. they won anything from the west to not stop this advance. i heard them say if we are fading here, we're night -- we have heard that in the past and former conflicts, the idea that the ideology or that vladimir putin presents will spread further and further as this conflict goes on. >> people have been watching this on tv in the past few weeks they become familiar with some of this geographically. less with lviv. we've mostly been talking about kyiv and cities in the east. lviv is where the diplomatic corps, and where a lot of people went from kyiv thinking it was going to be the safe place. in fact, there was some conversation about how the u.s. was prepared to evacuate the president, zelenskyy, to lviv. to keep him safer than he would be in kyiv.