worked with, then the top two or three. and this is where your question comes into with regard to supreme court experience. i've seen them in person. i have read the transcripts. she is extraordinary. yes, you can talk about numbers, like arguing more cases than any other black woman in history. but it is the quality of her arguments, not the quantity, that it so distinguishes her, along with her poise and meticulous attention to detail. she was extraordinary and that is why when i headed the solicitor generals office i gave the white house only one name of someone i wanted to put up as the number two, the principal deputy solicitor general. and that was leondra kruger. and to take one last point i would make, some supreme court justices count for more than one vote formally they all do. there are nine up there, as amanda says. but