political rivals don't jump at him and that sees the moment. because when i have been told by numerous officials is that putin school, ultimately, is to collapse zelensky's government and put a more pint government in place. put a more pro-russian regime here, like he used to have, like he has and belarus, like he hugs in kazakhstan. and that zelensky is standing in the way of that. so one way to do that would be to collapse his government from within, by putting pressure, psychological pressure, organizing some sort of coup, or taking a piece of the country, making it a failed state, and then hoping that there is a change of government that way. we're taking the whole thing. >> richard angle you are in eastern ukraine, there is an argument made mostly by the russian that there are a lot of russian speakers, pro russian people that live in that part of ukraine. they would be most happy to see a russian invasion, or would be happy to live under the