accountable for refusing to cooperate with congress. >> daniel goldman, the justice department in the past has acted on criminal referrals from congress like this in a matter of days, like eight days a week. steve bannon was about 22 days. what can possibly be going on with the mark meadows referral? >> so i play devils advocate here and i think that they're a couple things that might be going on. first of all, there was some cooperation by meadows. we know that he turned over 9000 text messages or something along those lines. second, he does have, or at least there was, potential for executive privilege claims that steve bannon just did not have. so he is in a slightly different footing. i think legally that's irrelevant because the best case that the department of justice can bring is that he simply didn't show up to his deposition.