makes it harder for people to vote is that a lot of people can't register what's happening. if they don't feel like their right to vote is going to be curtailed or their ability to vote is not going to be hindered, it seems distant and abstract to them. but taken in the aggregate, this is very serious problemch how do you get people for whom this is not going to be a problem to understand their democracy is not perfect until this is fixed? >> i think one of the things you have to look at here in arizona, 80% of arizonians choose to vote by mail. and just ts last legislative session we had a bill that would literally remove 200,000 individuals. these are people who signed up for something called the permanent early voting list. they would remove 200,000 of these individuals from the list if they chose not to vote into elections. and it's designed primarily to make it more difficult for people to participate. coincidently, the more people we