who is talking to the ground jury. this is the accountant vendor under oath with immunity to the country in manhattan. the same accountant who was under oath in your case. >> that is right, we deposed donald bender, and we deposed him because we wanted to find out what he knew about the kind of guy donald trump is and the trump organization. as preparing his tax returns. trump routinely floated the statement of financial condition, fomc. that he would give to reporters. he didn't actually provided to me until we litigated. but even his own account it would say that we cannot sign off on this document because it doesn't support the accounting principles. in other words, we are still living holding our noses and looking the other way. bender was the lead representative for trump's accounting firm. he worked directly with allen weisselberg and trump preparing a number of financial documents