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large may not credit biden, something very interesting is happening in the polls. republican voters with children tend to be more favorably disposed to biden than republican voters without children. that could be correlation or causation, but the people i talk to say that shows there is some resonance. so maybe biden isn't moving the electoral -- but he may be moving people slightly on the margin here that could help in 2024. this is not a unique phenomenon to biden. you might remember this, lawrence, barack obama heading into his re-election, the vast majority of the public thought that taxes had gone up under obama. in fact, he had reduced taxes through his stimulus act for the vast amount of voters. there's also a lot of voters who don't understand or consume information like we do. >> that example, taxes going up under president obama, is that just the enduring impression that under democrats taxes go up and under republicans taxes go

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