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raffensperger with the intent that secretary raffensperger perform a certain act, and that act itself was a crime, the crime that you just described, the crime of tampering with ballots, tampering with the vote tabulation in the state. so i think looking at that, you'd probably see it charged as a solicitation offense, maybe a conspiracy offense it could even help support a charge of intentional interference with the carrying out of public duties by public officer. again, in this case, secretary raffensperger. there is numerous avenues through whichpresident trump's conduct could give rise to criminal liability here. >> as soon as this phone call became public in the raffensperger side released to it the media, we're all listening to it, we brought georgia lawyers on to this show to outline all of these statutes that they knew about, that we didn't know about within georgia law. and they were rattling off these things that don't exist. some of these statutes, they're different from state to state,

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