a large part of the caucus, this number, 3.5 trillion was already a compromise. we started with 6 trillion. the budget committee worked very hard to get that $3.5 trillion compromise, and so -- and we think that's the number that's needed to do these profound changes. >> senator jeff merkley, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. >> thank you >> we'll be right back ♪ got that bourbon street steak with the oreo shake ♪ ♪ get some whipped cream ♪ ♪ on the top too ♪ ♪ two straws, one check, ♪ ♪ girl, i got you ♪ ♪ bougie like natty in the styrofoam ♪ ♪ squeak-squeakin' in the truck bed all the way home ♪ ♪ some alabama-jamma, she my dixieland delight ♪ ♪ ayy, that's how we do, how we do, ♪ ♪ fancy like, oh ♪ ♪ music playing. ♪ there's an america we build ♪ ♪