basically even the media just ignored it basically until the last three weeks. there was an even written alliance between i think a lot of the provo or hogs, basically they thought they could just continue to have a silent war not admit defeat. until democracy caught up. democracy said, and people spoke out and said we want to get out of this war and they were shocked that politicians followed through with that. in the end, if you want to have a long lasting war, you have to have people that want to commit to it. but that is against the idea i think of the history of this country, it's not in our nature. in the future, i hope we recognize that we are not this force, if we, are we have to have a commitment from the public, and not have this half as urge policy where we hope that the rest of the public forgets about these overseas adventures. >> james fallows, what are the lessons you think we should learn? >> i could not agree more than