end of the day, let him decide whether he's going to vote no because of something that he'll have to explain to his constituents which is not about the substance of the bill, but something that he wanted republicans to do that they wouldn't. i mean, there's no other path here. the only question to ask is how much time will be wasted while they let this play out in an unbelievably foreseeable way. [laughs] >> well we have senate expert adam joining us in this hour so we're gonna let him try to explain to us where we are tonight. >> he knows these things better than i knew for sure. >> thank you rachel. >> thanks lawrence. >> thank you. well our first guest tonight, our marching down the road that the reverend martin luther king junior marched on 16 years ago and today, that road took them to a meeting with the senator joe manchin where they could have said almost word for word