president didn't do what the house claims he did, then people like mick mulvaney and john bolton would likely testify to that fact. we all have opinions and it's okay to express those opinions. but to be imparlgsz means to be open to the set of believes. and i'm certainly open to hear from the president. i think it's unlikely he'll be able to present evidence to change my mind. >> at this point mcconnell and sh schumer are not that far apart. he says he wants to use the clinton impeachment model. they testified in depositions and that was made available to senators. mcconnell says i think the clinton model was a great model. houvrg the way that worked was