the russian attack, as bob mueller characterized it involved illegal activity releasing them and taking over parts -- >> so on a op-ed. >> and this is an op-ed. we have just now, all three of us, fallen into the trap. year discussing and trying to explain what's there and isn't there and get nothing to dedetails. and i sat through this all week. devyn nunes on the republicans on the panel and others, all they do is try to string together in a nefarious way, terms and names. steel, ukraine, meddling, tweets and they try create an impression. >> unfortunately it's something you can't yet get away from bec it's in the it mainstream. >> and they're trying to create an alternative reality people