be held and that a vote be held on whether the president should be convicted or not and removed from office. >> that's a really important clarification about when the dismissal motion came. it came at the end of the presentation of the evidence in the case as happens in a trial, it's all the evidence has gone in and the defense counsel stands up and asks for a directed verdict, which is kind of the equivalent of what they're asking for here. >> right >> not on that first day and that is a huge distinction that we have to watch in this next senate trial. former senator russ feingold, thank you very much for joining us tonight, and please >> you bet. thanks, lawrence. >> well, the white house has to be operating at its very best, at its very sharpest during an impeachment investigationur andn impeachment trial. and of course, of course mick mulvaney has the trump white house operating at its worst. along with of course donald trump operating at his worst. that's next. dp operating at hit that's next. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month,