what was intended by what the president was saying, that has also come into focus. and it's very damaging to the president. but, look, we want to most accurate record and that's why we're calling a witness like colonel vindman, a decorated army colonel, served his country heroically in iraq, earned a purple heart and this was the first witness who was on the call. and who by the way is a legacy ukrainian and russian speaker. it took great courage for him to come forward and testify, and we are grateful in his service in doing so. >> how do you characterize colonel vindman's credibility, his consistency as a witness, and his recall ability? >> well, this is clearly someone who has spent his entire professional life serving our country. you see him sitting there in an army colonel uniform, and you know that those badges have been earned in combat serving his country. this is not someone who plays