trial in the normal criminal courts. that is the tough part of this i think for many members of congress because there's frankly a political danger here. if we vote articles of impeachment in the house and then the senate doesn't accept them, then there's a danger that we will have established the de facto precedent, that it is okay to do this as long as you can intimidate 51 members of the senate into ignoring the problem. >> let me just bring you up to speed on more breaking news we have on this story. the "washington post" is now reporting trump ordered a hold on military aid days before calling ukrainian president. this is according to officials. this is just being reported by the "washington post." it says that -- congresswoman dingell, it says president trump told his acting chief of staff