they are vulnerable. their territorial sovereignty has been violated for years now by the russians. they need this show of alliance. they need this show of united force. so there isn't a country that doesn't need something for us, and ukraine needs more than most country does from us. >> i want to read a quote from a former senior administration official in "washington post," and whenever i see former senior administration official these days i think john bolton, but the truth of it is, john bolton just represents a pyramid of people, who fit the description of former senior administration people. but this is a particularly negative quote. it's the kind of smackback at the president that you could expect at some point from john bolton, if he did witness this and if it was true. a former senior administration official who repeatedly discussed the issue with trump said that the president thought what we were doing in ukraine was pointless and just aggravating the russians. the president's position basically is we should recognize