this is you in "vanity fair" what you wrote about potential -- per the mention of romney about romney/clinton voters. all in all back of the napkin math suggested around 5 million voters supported romney in 2012 but went on to back either clinton or conservative third party candidates in 2016. whether they stay home in 2020, vote democrat, vote their party or reluctantly vote for trump this time around the choices the center right voters make in 2020 will have an impact on the margins when margins are everything. you are not talking about people who voted for-donald trump and not movable. what about these romney to clinton voters? >> we're talking about maybe 5% of the american electorate that voted for romney but then for either clinton or a third party candidate in 2016. these are voters for whom their 2020 outcome is far from certain. romney/clinton voters as we've been tracking their views since 2016 looked pretty strongly democratic.