President obama will hold his First Press Conference to discuss the looming fiscal cliff. Will the fiscal cliff be the number one conversation piece . Theres only so much we can say about this fiscal cliff slope. I argued for a balanced approach. The majority of the voters agreed with me. I think theyre popular ideas. I think the majority of voters agreed with me. Clearly president obama won. Losing never feels good. No more mr. Nice guy. The president responds to questions about susan rice about the benghazi attacks. Senator mccain and senator graham want to go after somebody, they should go after me. Former cia director David Petraeus will testify before the Senate Intelligence committee. General petraeus had an affair with his biographer. People are snapping up copies of the book. Its so pathetic. The book is available in hard cover and extremely hard cover. Today on an im sorry i lost Conference Call with top campaign dont oorors, mitt rom said the president won the election because he game africanamerican and latino voters, quote, gifts. Abc news has this audio. What the president s campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. Romney also said that the president s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars. He said the president followed the old play book of wooing specific interest groups, especially the africanamerican community, the his it andic community and young people. Mr. Romney explained with targeted gifts and initiatives in each case they were very generous in what they gave those groups. He also said our strategy worked well with many people but for those who were given a specific gift, if you will, our strategy did not work terribly well. Mitt military particularly cited the president S Health Care plan. You can imagine for somebody making 20,000 or 25,000 or 30,000 a year youre now going to get Free Health Care, youre now going to have it, youre going to get Free Health Care, particularly if you dont have it, getting Free Health Care worth, what, 10,000 for farmly. Likewise with his it andic voters, Free Health Care was a big plus. But in addition the amnesty for children of illegals, the socalled dream act kids. With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college Loan Interest was a big gift, free contraceptives were very big with Young College aged women and obama care, as you know, now 26 years of age or younger was now going to be part of their parents plan and that was a big gift to young people. Now we know what mitt romney is doing for three hours a day after the election. Hes listening to this guy. Small things beat big things yesterday. Conservatism in my humble opinion did not lose last night. Its just very difficult to beat santa claus. Now, say what you want but romney did after a vision of traditional america. And in their postelection slowdown, mitt and ann are obviously having dinners on trays in front of the tv listening to this guy. The demographics are changing. Its not a traditional america anymore. And there are 50 of the voting public who want stuff. They want things. And who is going to give them things . President obama. Joining me now, New York Times reporter ashley parker, who was actually on the mitt romney Conference Call with his big donors today and msnnbcs joy reid and ari. Was mitt romney aware that you and possibly others got on to the call . No, i do not think he was aware. I think he thought he was just talking to members of his information finance team. We just heard a pretty good tape of abc. My suspicion is there will be more tape of this phone call coming out. Im sure there will. I was on the call, an l. A. Times reporter was on the call. A lot of that audio was in the stories that have already been published today. Will there be any more surprising well learn about what he said on this call the reports that are out there pretty much capture it all . I think it hit the highlights where he was talking about the gifts president obama gave africanamerican voters, h hispanic voters and young voters. And also a pollster, he felt that sandies, the storm, that occurred the week before the election made a difference. One, he said it allowed the president to look president ial. You know, he was sort of doing president ial duties and handling the storm. The second thing was that it took up a lot of the awaves. Newhouse said the public was rightly focused on the storm but it didnt allow the Romney Campaign to prosecute their message. The third thing he said was president obama was a able to make use of his relationship with governor Chris Christie and behave in an elevated bipartisan way that governor romney had been trying to do. Was there any whiff of bitterness with regard to the reference it Chris Christie . No. On the call he mentioned it was a statement of fact. And what about responses from any of the big donors on the call . Were there any complaints . Were there any reactions from them at the notion that mitt romney used all their money in what was a losing effort . The donors on this call were not able to ask questions. Ive heard gripes from donors privately but on this call someone on it described it to me as a spin and grin. It was the Romney Campaign kind of explaining why they felt they lost and also thanking the donors for what they said was a very good job and talking about the donors actually going forward, about maybe an annual meet organize monthly news letter so this group of people, they said, could shape the Republican Party to come. I would think you might have a reaction to this. That would be the most expensive news letter in history. I thought id been black a long time. I didnt get my gifts. So im a little miffed with the Barack Obama White house. It might be under your pillow, under the christmas tree. I have a feeling Chris Christie might have gotten gifts before i did. I would think if youre trying to market a product, the product being the Republican Party, probably not a good idea to insult the following demographics youd like to one day pursue, latinos, africanamericans, young people. Mitt romney has insulted everyone that the Republican Party operatives now want to win over. So i think the gift he might want to give his party is the gift of silence. Lets talk about the rank stupidity of romney and the candidate himself. How did he not know that others would be getting these tapes . This was at a big fundraiser where he got betrayed in effect by videotape once before. At this point those donors have nothing before in letting ashley and others be involved. When your staff sent me ashleys articles, i hadnt seen the remarks yet. When i read them, it made me really angry. It made me feel like this guy who lost and has already had his time in the public eye and had his platform is coming back out to be racially divisive, to denigrate the president. Im not the white house social secretary but if i were, i would say, mr. Romney, youre now denigrating the public, youre spitting in the president s face, your invite to the white house is revoked forever. He has here a world view that has become so synonymous with the Government Party that, government is just a transaction. You ask those people who are suffering from Hurricane Sandy and relying on whether its Chris Christie or barack obama whether theyre getting gifts. Theyre not getting gifts. Theyre relying on our government to do what it does best, which is look out for people. And then fourth on a narrower point, his electoral analysis is totally wrong zap. Its a real losers analysis. People over 55 went for romney. We spend as a government more on them than we do on the groups he mentioned. Did you think hes oblivious to the sense that you and others would be listening to this . Alts week afrlt election and hes doing this postmortem and trying to figure out the numbers and what went wrong. I got the sense i dont think he was worried about reporters being on the call, i got the sense he was struggling to explain what happened to him. He actually said we expected to win, you expected to us win, what happened is still so upsetting to us that we can barely look to the future. Thats what he seemed to be talking about on that call. Coming up, what happens in vegas stays in vegas and what happens in the cia ends up on every web site in america . The last words intelligent correspondent who just happens to be based in vegas will explain it all. And the senate has a new joe mccarthy, a republican senator who used the mccarthy model of character assassination today in lying about u. N. Ambassador susan rice. He wasnt the only senator attacking susan rice today, but he told a provable lie that is something even joe mccarthy would have been reluctant to say. And thats tonight. Aspirin, really . I havent thought about aspirin for years. Aspirin wouldnt really help my headache, i dont think. Aspirin is just old school. People have doubts about taking aspirin for pain. 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Romney, it was when it comes to how we reduce our deficit, i argued for a balanced, responsible approach and part of that included making sure that the wealthiest americans pay a little bit more. More voters agreed with me on this issue than voted for me. President obama was also clear about what he was open to discussing with congressional leaders in the negotiations, which will start on friday, the thing the president wont consider, an extension of the bush tax rates for the top 2 and romney ryan magical thinking about taxes. I think we can simplify our tax system, i think we can make it more efficient, we can eliminate loopholes and deductions, but what im not going to do is to extend bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 . What i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says were going to sort of kind of raise revenue through dynamic score organize closing loopholes that have not been identified. Treasury secretary tim geithner put that this way yesterday theres a lot of magical thinking about how much money can you raise from tax expenditures. A lot of people who have looked at that question and concluded i think incorrectly that theres huge amount of resource there is you can raise. I think thats just not true. Joining me now, nia henderson of the washington and the assistant manager editor of time magazines. The republicans have been saying we might able to do something with deductions but deductions only, no rate changes. It seems like tim geithner and the president are really double teaming that issue very strongly. I think theyve drawn a line in the sand. Can you see that from the statements today. This was arguably the Biggest Issue of the campaign. As the president said, most people do agree the rich should pay a higher percentage of taxes. I think making deductions work is going to be politically difficult. You have to get into things like the mortgage interest deductions. I think raising taxes on the rich is going to be something the president will hold the line on. The president again today called on the house of representatives to just pass the bill that the senate has passed already, with those rates and john boehner responded. The senate has already passed a law like this. Democrats in the house are ready to pass a law like this and i hope republicans in the house come on board, too. We should not hold the middle class hostage while we debate tax cuts for the wealthy. I think in stead of the house moving on the senate bill, the senate ought to move on the house bill. So the debate has been engaged. Its going to be an interesting conversation on friday to get it started. Thats right. Hell have the Senate Leaders and house leaders over to talk about this. One of the things that was so clear from that press conference was that the president is saying lets move this forward, lets move this forward now. He is certainly realizing that when you look at the four years that he has ahead of him, really it about the next 18 months to two years. Thats when he has a mandate that, when he has Political Capital to spend. Quickly he also wants to forestall some of these tax hikes that could come as early as january. John boehner initially said, listen, president , its time fur to lead. Thats what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, ive won. Weve officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. Its a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, theres something significant happening but not right away. But theres a tricky thing here. Both sides want to call it a cliff because both sides need drama in order to drive the urgency of their position but im wondering if at some point the president doesnt soften this as we get into late december and start to say to people, well, on the first week of january, youre going u just going to see a little step. And we will have time to fix it retroactively. I think thats probably what you will hear. I think ultimately this is going to be some kind of compromise. The fiscal cliff, it would be about 6 hup billion worth of tax cuts. I think it is going to be softened. There are no political points to be gained from getting the u. S. At the cliff, from going to default as we saw a year and a half ago. Also markets are responding to the fact that and how that could be cut or not but can we see political cohesion . If the president cant move forward on this issue, the rest of his agenda is going to become more difficult. And because of the way this package of cuts and tax increases is build that hits on january 1st, they can be negotiated at the same time, which is to say republicans have straits in what the so they may end up making decisions, that i will live with what the president wants on taxation so i can get what i want on defense cuts. Thats right. You heard, for instance, bill crystal, essentially tell republicans to say, listen, that they should accept this deal from obama, the higher tax rates on the rich of course that was something that was backed up by 60 to 70 of people who voted, some of whom were republican said yes, lets take that deal. So i think youre right. Theyre looking at all of these issues been i think there will be something of a meeting of the minds overs next two months and then there will probably be a sense that later on some of these bigger issues will also be taken up. Thank you both for joining me tonight. Thank you. Coming up, penn is here, as you may have noticed. 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Lets invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. Lets solve this. In the spotlight tonight president obama is not going to let republican senators john mccain and Lindsay Graham stop him from nominating whoever he thinks is the best candidate to be his next secretary of state. If you nominate susan rice, they will do everything in their power to block her nomination. She made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. If senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And im happy to have that discussion with them. But for them to go after the u. N. Ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. When they go after the u. N. Ambassador apparently because they think shes an easy target, then theyve got a problem with me. And should i choose, if i think that she would be the best person to serve america in the capacity of the state department, then i will nominate her. After the president s News Conference, senator graham immediately responded with this released statement. Mr. President , dont think for one minute i dont hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi. I think you failed as commander in chief before, during and after the attack. Given what i know now, i have no intention of promoting anyone who is up to their eyeballs in the benghazi debacle. Joining me is Jim Frederick and karen. Jim, is the u. N. Ambassador up to her eyeballs in the benghazi debacle, as Lindsay Graham would put it . No. Is she up to her toe nails . Is she in it at all . She had nothing to do with this. If there was any judgment error involved, there is a question of why was she on the morning programs talking about something that wasnt really in her lane. A lot of the things that she has been described as saying that, this was a spontaneous uprising, if you go back and look at what she said, she didnt actually say that. She said the spontaneous uprising was used as a cover for a concerted attack. A lot of the things that are being put into her mouth she didnt actually say but its interesting this is being used as a political scalp by the republicans who wooant somebodyo blame for benghazi. Its unfortunate that susan rice, who is a qualified secretary of state candidate would be held out, to be pilloried in this way. Its worth noting the republicans probably dont have enough votes to get in the way of a nomination and its also interesting that obama, he really is happy that this election is over because ive never seen him quite so forceful or genuinely outraged in quite some time. Have we ever has any senator ever used a standard like this on a possible secretary of state nomination before, that that nominee may have at some point said something on tv that they disagree with and cannot prove one way or the other . Yeah. She might have had a bad day but this does not disqualify her from being secretary of state. And there are intelligence failures after intelligence failures after intelligence failures when Condoleezza Rice was up for similar positions. To answer your question, no, not that im aware of has any nominatino nomination actually been blocked. My theory of the case is they really want scott brown back in the senate. What theyre trying to do is block susan rice so the president will then go to senator kerrey, opening up that senate seat in massachusetts to an election about 150 days after that opening occurs. If thats true, then attacking susan rice is quite disgusting behavior. Ive actually known susan since the Clinton Administration and this is quite offensive what theyre doing here. There was intelligence available. Somebody had to go out. She went out based on the intelligence and as jim said, when you go back and you look at what she said, she did caveat that based on what was known at the time. And it was these two men, as you point out, who supported another dr. Rice for secretary of state who had basically gone around misleading us about weapons of mass destruction. They certainly didnt have a problem with that. In this case susan was givens intelligence that even conde rice herself it was complicated and hard to know where things were going to shake out. If were going to talk about anybodys behavior in this, jason chaff its and darrell isa, who have to the only outed a covert operation, but theyve endangered the lives of libyans who are working with us. Lets look at their behavior. If these guys are trying to steer the nomination to massachusetts senator conquerry, so that the seat opens up so they can get scott brown back in the senate, it seems like the technique theyre using as of today is almost forcing the president s hand on ambassador rice. Its almost the kind of thing that makes him say, well, okay, that tips it, im definitely going with ambassador rice. That certainly was my read of his tone. I think the president is fully aware if those men want to have that fight attacking this woman, lets do it, lets go there. That is a good fight for him to have. It also outs them right on the block ne have no intention of working with this president of getting anything done. Thank you both for joining me tonight. Coming up, more on john mccain and Lindsay Graham, susan rice, Condoleezza Rice and sarah palin. Theyre all in the rewrite. And later, americas most famous juggler will teach David Petraeus what he should have known about juggling. 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Knee for secretary of state who has said anything on tv the truth of which cannot be proven beyond their standards of reasonable doubt. The shorter way to explain their standard is they cant vote for anyone named susan rice. Susan rice seem to be the frontrunner for secretary of state. You said last night will you do everything to stop her nomination mch why . Shes not qualified. Anyone who goes on television in response five days later, were all responsible for what we say and do. She is responsible to the senate of the United States. We have our responsibilities for advise and consent. This is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the administration and shes the point person is so disconnected from reality and i dont trust her. I think she knew better and if she didnt know better i dont think she deserves to be promoted. I am dead set on making sure we dont promote anybody that was an essential player in the benghazi debacle. In order to sound like they actually have a reason to oppose susan rice for secretary of state, they have to lie about her. You just heard little lindsay gram lying joe mccarthy style about susan rice, calling her an essential player in the benghazi debacle. The United States ambassador to the United Nations had absolutely nothing to do with the response to the attack in benghazi. Lindsay graham actually has the sleazy audacity to call her an essential player in those events. She was no more an essential player in what happened in libya than Lindsay Graham and john mccain were. At 11 51 this morning when Lindsay Graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little Lindsay Graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny mans character, little Lindsay Graham became the senates new joe mccarthy. The word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until Lindsay Graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. That lie cannot stand. The media cannot allow it to stand, but we know better. We can be assured that the media will, for the most part, actually allow it to stand. Liar Lindsey Graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. It may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. Liar Lindsay Graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. Liar Lindsey Graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bushs National Security adviser, after she and everyone else in the Bush Administration misread the intelligence on iraqs weapons of mass destruction, as it turned out nonexistent weapons of mass destruction programs. They had no problem voting her after she went on television and raised the specter of a Mushroom Cloud of an attack launched by iraq. No more dimented thing has ever been publicly said by a National Security adviser, save for every word ever spoken by Henry Kissinger about vietnam. When they voted for Condoleezza Rice for secretary of state, they knew that everything Condoleezza Rice said about iraq on television before the iraq war was wrong. They did not exact an apology from her in exchange for their votes for secretary of state. Today liar Lindsay Graham said this about the comparison between susan rice and Condoleezza Rice. When it comes to Condoleezza Rice, were not the only country that thought he was trying to get weapons of mass destruction. So the graham rule is its okay for highly placed Foreign Policy players in an administration to be wrong about something they say on tv involving intelligence as long as other people are wrong, too, especially people in other countries. In his nakedly political and entirely dishonorable prosecution of susan rice today, john mccain actually said this were all responsible for what we say and what we do. He obviously meant to add except Condoleezza Rice and anyone in any republican administration. Were all responsible for what we say and what we do. Really . From the guy who said this that old beach boy song bomb iran, bomb, bomb, bomb anyway. Yeah, anyway. Were all responsible for what we say and what we do. John mccain responsible for what we say and what we do . The guy who was trying to get sarah palin important is in as Vice President of the United States, a heart beat away from the presidency. John mccain did that. It was the greatest act of sheer irresponsibility i have ever seen in a president ial candidate. Here is something that john mccain has never once said about sarah palin. Were all responsible for what we say and what we do. He has never said that. Never once said that sarah palin has ever, ever said anything that perhaps she shouldnt have said. He defended every word sarah palin said as his choice to be Vice President of the United States, including this alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, russia, and on our other side the Land Boundary that we have with canada. Its funny that a comment like that was kind of made to i dont know, you know, as putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of america, where do they go . Its alaska. It just right over the border. 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That was president obama speaking publicly about general David Petraeuss problems with sex, lies and email. Tonight we found out the name of jill kelleys shirtless fbi agent friend who helped get this whole investigation started, the investigation into broadwells email, frederick humphreys. He told House Majority leader kantor about the investigation. Kantor was asked about this during his press conference today. I received information from an individual who i had not met before, did not know. The information that was sent to me sounded to me as if there was a potential for a National Security vulnerability. I had no way of corroborating the story that i was told and felt that the best thing to do at the time was not to politicize it but to put National Security first. Penn, i know you doesnt follow every twist and turn in washington. That guy you were just watching, eric cantor, he has not yet been caught in a sex scandal. Theres about a dozen of them who have not actually yet okay. Your new book every day is an atheist holiday, the promo will be that i just kind of leave it here. Ill lean on it. Thank you. It has in here a story of penn being blackmailed for what includes the sexual component and you going straight to the fbi. I also am the person most protected about blackmail possible. I am completely honest with my wife about everything. Heres a moment i remember on bill mahers show, there was some sex scandal out there in washington and you on the show said i have done everything that everyone in every sexual scandal is accused of, i have done it. I got this phone call blackmailing me, someone had gotten all the information from my hard drive, had asked me for money. Emails. The magic secrets from the penn and teller show never sent an email. Apparently thats more important than this. I knew that my wife wouldnt be upset, i knew it wouldnt change my career at all. You know the first thing i did was call you and then threw up. The pressure on you when youre being blackmailed is amazing. I called the fbi immediately. They said your wife wont be upset and this wont hurt your public image and i said, yes, but people shouldnt be blackmailing other people. Hearing about this, i should have all these kind of smarmy opinions on it but all i think about it is what you feel, even when youre safe when someone knows personal stuff about you is horrifying. Its terrify ing. But also one of the points you make in this book and elsewhere that the horrible scandal at the center of this story is really just people not being honest with each other, husbands and wives not being honest with each other about the way they live their lives. And also the rest of us not admitting. I think all of this sex talk in sex happened all the time throughout history with everybody. We just have an electronic trail on it now. We can follow it all. And i think we should all just kind of grow up a little bit and say we all like having sex and thats okay. But then heres the thing that gets me. Youre the cia director and you know we arent yet in that 22nd century when we all become french and were all cool with all this stuff. Since were not there, you are crazy enough as cia director to have all these emails out there, all this on a gmail account. Dont they have something that stands for gman has a gmail account. Dont they have certainly encrypted . I know they did that weird little put it in a draft so it doesnt go across. All he actually had to do to have no real record of it was just use the telephone. Then will their would be some phone numbers. Its his biographer. Theyre going to