voters. and i think the voters that we're talking about, we're not talking about democratic voters. we're talking about suburb women who may be republicans who are concerned about abortion and the tone of elections, what they want their children to see. donald trump is a complete turnoff to those voters. we saw that in 2020 and i think that same effect is going to be true in 2022. you can imagine, mehmet oz and donald trump on the same stage, it's going to be a reminder to those voters about how much they dislike donald trump and they attribute that to mehmet oz. >> the saturday before the election, this coming saturday, you're going to have obama and biden in philadelphia and trump out west in pennsylvania and then tuesday, we're going to find out who wins. donna edwards, john, thank you both for joining us. why is the new york democratic governor in a potentially close race there? what is happening in the empire state and some other significant