criminal if he wins a nomination for their party. i can't think of -- i can't think of any self and i don't, i have no moral convictions. i am just running for power. that's saying something like that. >> stuart, it was chris christie and isa hutchinson who actually had the gumption. both of them had the -- to raise their hands properly. i want to ask you this. he calls congresswoman ayanna pressley, quote, modern grand wizards of the modern kkk. putting aside going after people of color what is to say his numbers went up after that debate? what does it say that those numbers go up after he says this? he's taking on the mantle, saying, i'm a younger donald trump here. what does that say about the fact that his numbers go up after seeing stuff like this? >> that this party is steeped white supremacy. you don't have to be white in order to have allegiance to white supremacy. that is ramaswamy.