which draws a greater wedge between desantis and the former president which is going to be a political outcome from the hearing regardless. >> so the committee has walked back in. there's chairman benny thompson. they're going to start the questioning again. there's the vice chair liz cheney as well. they're going to start the questioning again with a bunch of lawyers, with bj pack from georgia. also al schmidt of the city commissioners in pennsylvania, who was also pressured by the trump team to find fraud. let us see where this goes. let's dip in and listen as they begin. >> the committee will be in order. i now welcome our second panel of witnesses. we're joined today by bj pact,
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