fox hole on team coup. >> to the point of criminality, and needing a pardon, one of the things that we learned outside the hearing room today, while the hearing was under way, is that the justice department is getting very insistent that they want all the transcripts from all of the depositions that the committee has conducted, and they want them now. that's next. stay with us. >> was it your impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world, through a dear colleague letter, but directly to president trump? >> many times. >> and it had been consistent in conveying his position to the president? >> very consistent. >> very consistent