lot of people back on their heels talking at a recent doj filing that indicates that in addition to all the other weapons that we've heard about, at least one member of these groups brought grenades, brought military ordinance grenades with them to january six. how significant is it to the investigation, what you've been able to uncover, with the justice department has been able to uncover, about weapons, about ammunition, about the degree to which the crowd was armed and the degree to which president trump knew it? >> well, i think it's an essential thing rachel for the american people to understand, because i think everybody gets the point that donald trump used these extremist groups. but they used him too. they used him in order to build a functioning street fascist alliance essentially. we saw the creation of a mass fighting street army by the extreme right for the first time in our lifetimes.