president -- [inaudible] >> how much time did it have, along with the president, people with you, like, from his age before the crowd came running? >> probably more than, not more than ten or 15 minutes. >> [inaudible] but cipollone said in a land speed record. >> i got a call, either from mali or from eric herschmann, that i should get to the oval office. >> so that was at the first point, where i had to recognize, there is no information from the white house. mark is gone. what's going on right now?