that. that was inconceivable to bill barr, inconceivable to pat cipollone, inconceivable to me, there was no constitutional loophole. they thought there wasn't that existed on january six. when the constitutional loopholes they were going for on january six with the law they're going for as a tool, was to literally stop it. if they don't do it on january 6th -- . well there isn't a constitution. then can we get it thrown in to the house of representatives and if we get it thrown into the house of representatives, then donald trump can win a vote in the house. >> and so, to answer nichols question, the answer is, who's the guy operating -- he thought, constitution loop will do it that way. that's what it takes in terms of the facility with your citizenship. >> all right, in a previous january 6th hearing, the investigators sprung the news on us, that trump hasn't just come up with some scheme to maybe overthrow the justice