maybe we'll get convicted an he will pay a fine you know it i mean whoa that is what is going to happen but over the course of tha two-year period, he will hav to be in court all the time. they will be filing motions on his behalf he will potentially be dealing with gag orders. he will be subject to th criminal justice system and al of its humbling specificity. and that is good to have the kind of effect that both of yo guys are talking about >> while he's campaigning. think about that fact that i he has a hearing in december one of the first hearing is january? one is iowa and new hampshire? it is around then you will be flying back and forth between des moines and new york city to do -- how does he keep his image o teflon going while he is havin to be like, i will let you finish with this campaign thing, i need to fly to new york fo this hearing in this case that i'm in that he has to testify in th civil case, e. jean carroll' cases coming up. next week's got the deposition in the corner, a billion dolla civil fraud case - letitia james has brough against. and that is next week.