racism so embedded in latin life, period? >> the legacy of the caste system is a horrible one. >> it might be a human condition. it is a human condition of colonization. >> yes, it is colonization that still exists in our mind. so, the caste system is something that has been outlawed for centuries. now. but the colonizers tell us, you have to be lighter skin to be more beautiful. and the things that we don't realize what we are actually say. we are still seeing that white people are better than us. and we are still aspiring to being white. and that's because of the caste system. >> you are saying there's only one way to be latina. there's only one way to be black. but like, why people get to be -- all sorts of different things. our identity is very complex because i am an immigrant. but i have friends who whose families have been in texas, in the first census of texas. >> you know, i am a roth