janee in that, when we don't fit a certain image of what a native person looks like, then sometimes, we can even be not considered indigenous. what are the thoughts on -- determine of us of being indigenous going forward? we continue to be mixed race native people. >> well, that's always a touchy subject, you know? because our tribe goes by the 1929 treaty. and so, people that were on that role, their descendants get enrolled. even if they have no indian blood, and. >> this is part of the problem because the american public knows so little about us. and so, everything becomes about blood quantum. it gets flipped, and so, you hear, like, the governor of oklahoma, who's enrolled cherokee citizen, will often just make light of blood quantum, people with blue eyes and long hair, that's not what it's about. it's about a political status we have as citizens of our respective tribal nations and this is not just about that blood. i think that's, like, the biggest educational piece i think we have to do with people's understanding that we are dual citizens of this