them. >> there are people that are curious your position. one mantra of progressives has been defund the police, for instance. i'm curious what your thoughts are on defund the police and how do you think the federal government should address disparities in law enforcement, particularly when it comes to black and brown folks. >> well, i've never been a champion or believer in defunding the police. in fact, i believe very much the opposite. i think we need to put more resources into our policing and to invest in training, especially around cultural competencies and eliminating the racial implicit biases that many of the police officers have held that put them in a state of fear when they're dealing with people that look like you and i. clearly it's not a matter of training them on deescalation because they know how to deescalate when it's not one of us. and so again, i think that investment in cultural competencies and racial implicit biases are where we need to be making investments.