and as stacey mentioned, the speaker has worked hard first to create an independent commission, and republicans would have had equal subpoena power in that independent commission, and it wouldn't have included any current members of congress. politicians or current politicians. and they said no to that. the reason they said no to that is because kevin mccarthy and the republican party are owned by donald trump, and they can't do anything they feel that upsets donald trump at this point. but that's not where the country is. the country rejected donald trump in the november 2020 election, and our interest is getting to the truth. >> so in terms of getting to the truth -- >> yeah, please, go right ahead, congresswoman. >> i think what joaquin is saying is so clear about the subpoena power. also, remember, when we have executed subpoenas against individuals during the trump administration, while those individuals fought the subpoenas, you've seen through courts that the courts have upheld it with mccann and with