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i think that what people are calling for is action in the spirit of dr. king, and that's -- whether that be white moderates or the entire beloved community that he spoke about and tried to bring about in his life time and ultimately caused his death. >> i completely agree. and here's the thing, carmen that people don't want to admit. dr. king wouldn't rock with any of you all. people love to come out and put his quotes up. he would not have rocked with anybody. i talked in the last hour about how his polling numbers were lower than trump's at the time of husband death. people like to cherry pick his quotes, but when it came to politics they didn't like it. what's your take on all of this? >> i mean, clearly he rocked with my mentor harry belafonte, as we sit here on the 93rd birthday of dr. king, who in

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