like the villains in "get out." during the unrest the past few years, i heard from many ceos and others in leadership positions say with confidence that they've had really honest conversations with their black employees, and let me just tell you, no, you didn't. you had a meeting and perhaps there was likely some candor in the remarks, but do understand there is a meeting after the meeting, and that's where the honest dialogue took place. and for many, being a part of this cultural shift is all well and good until we start to talk about a power shift where we're not asking to be hired, but we're the ones doing the hiring, and if that makes you uncomfortable but this does not. >> barack obama chose black and he's biracial. i'm like, well, congratulations to the president. i think that's fascinating considering his black dad was nowhere to be found but his white mom and grandma raised him. >> you should ask yourself why. coming up in the next hour, an