friends. he said he would eliminated debt and added $7.8 trillion to the debt. >> he didn't do that. that's whye needs to be on this stage. >> they hit him harder in that debate than any other forum. trump did not immediately respond. as mentioned, he counter-programmed by going on fox news and striking a very different tone. we have covered that last night and today. the big picture here is something we talked about before if you've joined me on "the beat." we have to have intellectual humility about this world we're in. look at the last few years. we don't know what's going to happen. we don't know what people are going to do in response to what people do. so, i mention this beltway largely conservative leaning belt way conventional wisdom about whatever advice they candidates have gotten. maybe it's too late. maybe they took this strategy on way too late to move people in the early states, but the