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cohen $130,000, he had to true up the amount so that michael cohen would actually get the full $130,000. you wouldn't need to do that if these were actually legal fees. this is not how this would work. so, and as you pointed out, there are a lot of prior inconsistent statements and you'll hear from the prosecution about, look, if this was an innocent scheme, why is his story changing so much over time. >> yeah. >> so i think those are all of the kinds of things you'll hear to undermine an exalted ceo, i didn't know what david pecker and michael cohen were doing at the ground level. >> what about this defense that the d.a.'s office is stretching a misdemeanor and they haven't even picked one aggravating crime. >> i think tim is right. they're going to focus on the

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