safety not against vaccines. but, in fact, beyond his criticism of vaccines and, it is in 2006, he wrote an article in rolling stone claiming that the 2004 election had been stolen in ohio thanks to -- machines. that article was disproven, with lots of other investigations into journalism suggesting that was not the case, it was a very seductive argument. but, his distrust in election results is persisted. he still talks about how the electoral systems are rigged, and in fact he was equivocal in an interview with the washington post when they asked do you think that joe biden won the election he said, i do not know, i think joe biden won. this is really important to focus on because what he is projecting to the people who are listening to him and paying attention to him is this sense that we cannot trust electoral results.