really understand what had happened to them. when i became a trial judge, i take extra care to communicate with the defendants who come before me in the courtroom. >> and jackson rebutted a conservative criticism arguing they have the same duty as former prosecutors who put past work aside to be neutral judges. of. >> i would think that there would be no difference between defender experience and prosecutoral experience from the standpoint of whether or not someone can do what the law requires and many, many prosecutors have been appointed as judges. >> legal liberals cheer that defense experience. but biden's aides are quick to pust pivot to the police credentials. >> the court will have the first public defender since thurgood marshall. >> i think that there is a misconception of her in some ways that she is -- because she was a public defender, which is an incredibly interesting and