what he wanted and from rudy giuliani on down they were prepared to carry out as much of that as they could, if in critical times they could get members inside of the government where this national security, justice department, on board to complete the mission. >> i have to ask you, trump going after pence and pelosi yet again. what does that tell you? >> it tells me it is the deflection. it is always the deflection. so when trump goes after someone, stop and ask yourself, well why are you going after them. you know, what have they done, what have they said, what are they doing that gets you so exciting to take time to single them out. what it said to me is this is cutting very close to trump. and it is putting him in a position where he realizes he doesn't have the power to stop it. he can't stop the investigations in new york so, guess what, that -- those prosecutors are racist. he can't stop the january 6