highest levels of government. we can only imagine what the military thought about this kind of meddling. >> let's think about the context of the moment. the date of the draft of this executive order shows bill barr had already designed. i think you also had white house counsel also threatening to resign if they were going to replace acting a.g. rosen at the time. so trump was looking for anybody he could lean on, anyone, and cue these players who probably shouldn't have had audience with the president or access to that information. and it shows the desperation of trump to do anything because what was outlined in that draft order was a military coup. that is what is striking here. i think that is what should be emphasized. you're right, there is no evidence yet that meadows signed off on it or trump signed off on it. as the select committee digs