conspirators had going here. the video footage shows that it was carried out. it shows why someone like david rhodes can still be indicted for sedition. both the planning, the specific nature of the planning, and then the fact it was executed. then i think there's this big question that you started with, ari, about whether a witness like this boning a witness against someone higher up the food chain. it will be interesting to see if heavy charges like this prompt that kind of shift toward, you know, potentially charging others we have talked about on the program before, who might have been closer to former presumption. >> i was jog going to say, sometimes an indictment like this is intended in part to shake the trees. you know, let them know we mean business, and my expectation would be that some folks, if