what hemingway wanted to do, he wanted to strip away all the artificial things that grow up around this stuff and so he said in the end that maybe it was only the names of the places that had real meaning in war and that everything else become part. our attempt now to tell stories and true in the holocaust, we've forgotten how much these things that are shocking us now, shocking us now, are very much a part of our past and we've always been, not just like they bubble up to the surface every couple of decades in the 1840s -- >> and i'm only jumping in because i have to give my time now to joe reid. i would love to talk to you longer and have you back. ken burns, thank you. thanks for watching "the beat." we'll be right back. watching ". we'll be right back. if you ask suzie about the future,